Terror Is Um…
Terrorism is NEVER going to stop. Pete brought up that there were three places attacked this weekend, all of which may or may not have been linked to one another. Regardless of that, he also posed the question, “How do we stop terrorism?” Pete loves to answer his own questions (along with laughing at his own jokes and pleasuring himself) and made the analogy that if someone hates you, you don’t punch them in the face. It really is a hard decision to come to. You really can’t punch someone in the face if they don’t like you, but if they hit you first, you do have to attack. However, you can’t be “invading” the house two doors down from the prick who doesn’t like you… You’re just giving him more of a reason to hate you (here’s a MAP for all of you who don’t remember the teachings of Rand McNally and didn’t catch my analogy).
Speaking of Terrorism, he also brought up kids and should you spank them. I think all children should be spanked (and maybe some of the half-assed parents who have them). I was hit twice as a child, once with the wooden spoon and once with a shoe. I never acted up again. That’s a lie. I never got caught again!
It drives me crazy when Pollyanna Pete starts up with the “we’ve got to fight their ideas“. Especially when their ‘ideas’ consist mostly of killing/oppressing those who won’t adopt their ‘ideas’!
Pete’s analogy doesn’t even make sense, given that the militant Islamic terrorists don’t merely hate us, they believe us evil and worthy of death. Nor does it make sense as applied to the invasion of Iraq.
With the Islamic radicals, the analogy seems better put as a guy who hates you because you don’t go to his church and has said you deserve death for not doing so. He’s killed some of your fellows and punched you a few times (USS Cole, African Embassies, WTC 1992). He firebombed your building, killing some of your people and scurried deep inside the abandoned building where he plotted the attack.
You’ve been punched, kicked and bitten by this savage who hates you and you’ve mostly responded by backing off and filing police reports, until the firebombing. Now you’re mad as hell and aren’t going to take it anymore. You show up to put a stop to it one way or another, announcing to the world that ANYONE giving aid to these types would have you to answer to.
Then you storm the place and kick ass.
A more appropriate and true analogy to Iraq, it seems to me, is akin to a guy who lives across the neighborhood, has in the past violently clashed with his neighbors and has all sorts of unsavory characters coming and going.
At one point, he had forced his way into his next door neighbor’s house, a friend of yours, and everyone on his street asked you to lead the charge to get him out. And you did. You went and beat him mercilessly and he conceded to allow the neighborhood watch on his property to get rid of all the dangerous weapons he’d been using for decades.
And yet he defied the agreement and things came to a head when plans were discovered to build bombs big enough to cause great destruction to his enemies. He turned over the plans eventually, but refused to allow anyone else back onto his property.
Meanwhile, some other asshole, who’d been holed up in an abandoned building, run by cultists and drug lords, plotted to strike you and yours, and eventually surprised you one gorgeous September day, with a firebomb in your building, killing some of your people.
You figure out the firebomber is in the abandoned house and move rapidly, the whole neighborhood is shocked and with you as you descend upon it and drive the drug lords and fanatics into the sewers, missing the main asshole, but getting a lot of his close friends. One of his good buddies got hurt when you stormed the place and fled to … guess where?
RIGHT! The property of the other asshole you dealt with a few years back! Now you say, “Alright, time for an open house - I’ve been firebombed and in light of the danger of a bigger bombing, which might destroy the whole building, which you had been trying to build in the past, the plans we found before you flat out refused to allow inspections to continue. ”
And you stood out front of his property, armed and with few other friends willing to stand behind you and demanded full inspections. You allowed them in, but followed them everywhere, wouldn’t allow them to speak with staff unattended and so on. The inspectors returned, reported this and finally, after a long wait, you went in and again kicked the shit out of him and his pals, this time occupying his building.
I don’t have the will to complete the analogy…however, I’m sure some anti-war douche will be glad to fill it out with the usual half truths, distortions and outright lies which make up the bulk of their views on Iraq.
Damn. Brian, I only wanted to emphasize hate in the second paragraph above, not the rest.
Todd, I can’t help it if you’re as sloppy with your HTML as you are with your analogies. That has to be the most ridiculous allegory I have ever seen on this subject. I kept getting lost, in fact, as to what the parallels were supposed to be. What are the plans your neighbor has to build a bomb? What does that compare to in the Iraq analogy. How come in your version, when your neighbor attacked his neighbors, it wasn’t with your encouragement, help, financing, armaments, and winks and nods? That’s kind of weird that that was missing, when we encouraged Saddam to attack Iran and told him we wouldn’t mess with him if he messed with Kuwait. Oops, I guess those weren’t convenient to your analogy.
In a true analogy, the "you" character would be the biggest bully in the contemporary world. You would have the worst reputation of all the major bullies. Also, in fighting back against your neighbor, you would do so in such a way that would maim and kill some of the innocent people living in his house. And that would enrage lots of your neighbors — their families more than heads of household. And they would justifiably hate you.
Then you’d have something of a remotely plausible analogy. But your version is just kind of silly.
Also, no one should hit their kids. What a sick, weak, backwards, ignorant thing to do. Come on, people, it’s 2008, not 800 A.D. Can we please move past violence against toddlers! (Except Toddlers.)
Also, since when are Iraq or Afghanistan our neighbors? Can we stop pretending we have legitimate interests in that part of the world? Here we are criticizing Iran for meddling in the country next door. Can you imagine what we would do if anyone came into our region and occupied Mexico or Canada? The double standard is soooooooo ooooooold.
well I for one would sure welcome the local "bully" up here in America’s "attic" if such an occupation were to occur Brian, tks. omg! "Toddlers" lmfao. (sorry Todd.) that was pretty clever.
I don’t think that we ever got to the alternatives to spanking that Val was talking about on Monday. I was hoping Pete was going to finish up with that today. Anyone know what Val was going to bring up?
Some terrorists are still fighting the crusades. Shall I say more?
Hey, you voted for the man, John. Twice, right?
Hey its choosing to have a chimp or an orangatan at the wheel…
Hahaha, I gotta hand it to you, John. You have some very colorful ways of pointing out how little choice our system gives us.
But Clyde has shown that he can drive a car…a bunch a bunch of Nazi bikers, I trust the Orangatan